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[00:01:12] Speaker B: Welcome to this week's edition of in the Clubhouse with EMD Baseball. I'm Andy Kirikidis, joined by my Wonderful co host, Mr. Keith Glasser. How are we doing?
[00:01:21] Speaker C: Great. How are you?
[00:01:22] Speaker B: Good.
We're going to dispel a myth today because I've seen it floating around on Twitter, MythBusters version, MythBusters version in the.
[00:01:32] Speaker C: Clubhouse.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: But I've seen it flowing around on Twitter, had some conversations with some people who I think are getting this rule a little bit twisted because of some of the recent NCAA rulings granting some junior college fellows an extra year of eligibility.
The five year, five years of eligibility rule just got shot down by the ncaa. That seemed to cause a little bit more confusion, but at its core, the rules for eligibility in college baseball have not changed.
Right. We're past the COVID years.
The JUCO guys got an extra year because of the Pavia case. The quarterback from Vanderbilt, I believe he's actually suing the NCAA again to try to get another year. So some of this stuff is in flux, but as it stands today, it's, you got five years to play for how it works.
Junior college years do in fact count towards your eligibility. So if you're a junior college player this fall and you play this spring and you're fully enrolled, your clock has started that your. Your five years for four has started.
So that has not changed. And I'm not sure why there's so much confusion. I think it's people kind of jumping on some of the early NCAA rulings and making some blanket statements that if you go to junior college, you get four years at The NCAA level.
It's just not the case right now.
[00:03:10] Speaker C: No, it's not.
I think it's a little bit more of a mass hysteria, if you will, of seeing the ruling that you had. You know, once Diego sued the NCAA and he granted the junction then the, the injunction, they kind of knew that instead of getting sued by every single JUCO player in the history of sports right now, they would just give the blanket waiver for that fifth year. I, I don't foresee it really changing because I think the, the five years to play five got vetoed and voted down. So I don't necessarily think that this is going to be something moving forward that's going to allow everyone to do this. I also think that, you know, the argument in this case, and I'm not a lawyer, you know, but it's, you're, you're trying to make this argument for a very, very small subset of people when it comes to nil money and things of that nature. Like you're talking about sec, ACC and a handful of Big Ten quarterbacks.
So, you know, it doesn't. Because there were, and correct me if I'm wrong, Andy, but I'm fairly certain that there were a handful of baseball guys that tried this same route and they got shot down. Correct?
[00:04:32] Speaker B: Yeah, one.
There was one specific one last year with a kid who was at North Carolina and went to. I think he went to do finish up his years at Tampa and went to Tennessee. And I don't think he ever was able to play.
[00:04:51] Speaker C: I do not believe he was. No.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And you who are listeners, you can fat check me on that. But I think I got my, I think I got my details right. But yeah, some baseball guys have tried this and I think the argument around the nil piece for baseball is even harder to make because there's, there's just not nearly as many schools that are paying, you know, substantial amount. So. And I think it's kind of a broken argument, to be honest with you, because I think you run into a situation where, like, how far, how far back do you go?
[00:05:21] Speaker C: Right?
[00:05:22] Speaker B: But, you know, we'll see what ends up happening with the ncaa. Like, they've, they've been way less successful in these lawsuits than they have been historically. Usually if you try to sue the ncaa, you ain't winning.
But, you know, some, some stuff has happened recently with the roster cuts and, you know, where the students have. Student athletes have more power than they've ever had, which I think is a good thing. But, you know, as it stands right now the eligibility rules have not fundamentally changed.
Could it change in six months? Yeah, maybe, and if it does, we'll update you.
But, you know, wanted to clear the air on, on kind of this JUCO idea of, well, if I go to junior college for two years, then I can go to a four year school for four years after that. And it's just, it's just not, it's not true.
No.
[00:06:13] Speaker C: And I don't necessarily know if that would be the best route, even if it was for a lot of people. Right.
[00:06:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:20] Speaker C: You know, there's only so many of them in the country.
So, you know, in the, you get into the.
I think we've talked about this a little bit, but you get into what does that look like at some of these programs that, you know, are not all funded that well?
You know, all of a sudden you have an influx of 70 guys. Like, what, what does that do for you? You know, are you really developing in, in that scenario?
So, you know, it's.
If they were to change the rule, then, you know, that's probably something that you have to weigh and kind of figure out. But you know, I almost see it in some ways of like a prep here in some regards. Right. Like, it could backfire a little bit if you don't go and develop the way that you, you might be able to at some place.
[00:07:19] Speaker B: But yeah, and the other thing too.
[00:07:21] Speaker C: This is all hypothetical.
[00:07:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And then people also underestimate junior college baseball across the board too, which is another thing. They're like, I'll just go to junior college. It's like, well, yeah, there's some junior colleges pretty good. Yeah, there's some junior colleges out there that you better be able to, better be able to slang it, be able to play. Yeah, like you better be able to do some stuff.
[00:07:43] Speaker C: So any semblance of being able to get on that field.
[00:07:47] Speaker B: Yeah, but it hasn't changed. Still five to play, four.
If it does change, we'll let you know. But wanted to clear the air on that is like I said, I saw some stuff flown around on Twitter and I talked to some guys that some different, some different people that had questions on it in terms of what that actually looks like. So hopefully we cleared the air there. Anything else you want to add, Coach?
[00:08:12] Speaker C: No, sir.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: Well, thank you for listening everybody.
Talk to you next week. Thank you.
Thank you for listening this week.
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